How to Differentiate LM741 and LM358: LM741 vs. LM358

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Published: 06 January 2022 | Last Updated: 06 January 2022

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The LM741 and LM358 are two well-known op-amp designs. Despite the fact that they are both general-purpose op-amps, the LM358 is a much newer part than the LM741, and despite the fact that they are both general-purpose op-amps, there are significant differences between them that affect performance and applicability. We'll look at the internal and behavioural distinctions between the two in this essay.

This video is about M358 IC & LM741 IC Working.

LM358 IC / LM741 IC WORKING

LM741 vs. LM358 Pinout

LM741 vs. LM358 Pinout.jpg

LM741 vs. LM358 Pinout

LM741 vs. LM358 Description

The first visible difference is that the  LM741 's stated supply voltage is bipolar, requiring both positive and negative power. The datasheet makes no mention of a single supply operation, which we'll discuss in the following section. The LM358, on the other hand, claims that the input can go down to 0V with a 30V single-ended supply, meaning that the input range extends to the negative supply pin. The top limit, on the other hand, is 1.5 volts below the positive supply pin.

The discrepancy in input bias current is also due to the op-internal amp's structure. Although 100nA running through 10kΩ may not seem like much, it yields an error voltage of 1mV, which may or may not be significant depending on the application.



LM741 vs. LM358 Specifications

The following table shows their different specifications:

Specification

LM741

LM358

Supply voltage (max.)

±22V

32V (±16V)

Input bias current (max.)

~200nA

100nA

Input voltage range (max.)

±13V

(±15V supply)

0V – (V+ - 1.5V)

(30V supply)




LM741 vs. LM358 Internal Circuit

The internal circuit of LM741 is given below:

LM741 Internal Circuit.jpg

LM741 Internal Circuit

One characteristic of this op-amp that explains all three deviations from the LM358 is the input stage.

The input stage of the LM741 consists of a pair of NPN transistors that buffer a PNP transconductance gain stage, a current mirror that equally distributes current between both legs of the differential amplifier, and a current source that supplies current to the input stage.

The current mirrors and PNP amplifiers take up two diode drops from the negative supply rail, while the input transistors take up another, therefore the input must be at least three diode drops (2V) above the negative supply rail to work properly. To ensure proper operation when using a single supply, the inputs must be kept above 1.5V.

Because the input stage is buffered by only one set of transistors, the bias current is quite high.

This following  figure shows the internal circuit of LM358:

LM358 Internal Circuit.jpg

LM358 Internal Circuit

The input structure differs significantly from that of the LM741. The input stage is buffered "twice," resulting in reduced bias current. Because the input transistors are PNP, even when the input voltage is 0V, the emitters remain at 0.6V, ensuring correct operation. Consider it this way: the extra PNP buffer transistors protect the input current mirror from low input voltages by ensuring that at least one diode drop is maintained across them.





LM741 vs. LM358 Major Differences

The major differences between LM741 and LM358 are shown below:

LM741

LM358

Dual supply operation

Single supply operation

Input common-mode range does not include   either supply rail, must be at least 2V above and below

Input common-mode range includes negative   supply rail, goes up to 1.5V below positive supply rail

Relatively higher bias current

Relatively lower bias current

The older part, not recommended for new   designs

Easily available and cheap,   general-purpose

The single amplifier in a package

Dual amplifiers in a single package, quad   available




Conclusion

Both the LM741 and the LM358 are popular general-purpose op-amps, but when the features are compared, the LM358 comes out on top in every category.

LM741 vs. LM358 Datasheet PDF

Frequently Asked Questions

What are LM741 used for?

LM741 can be used as a comparator in order to determine the levels of applied input voltages i.e. either smaller or larger input voltages are applied at its input terminal. LM741 is an op-amp IC having 8 different pins, which will be explained later in this tutorial.

Is LM358 an op-amp?

The LM358 is a low-power dual Op-Amp with two independent high-gain and frequency compensated operational amplifiers. ... These Op-Amps are frequently used to buffer or amplify signals. They can be utilized in a wide range of circuits such as voltage comparators, active filters and voltage-controlled oscillators (VCOs).

What is the recommended maximum supply voltage for LM741?

Unless otherwise specified, these specifications apply for VS = ±15 V, −55°C ≤ TA ≤ +125°C (LM741/LM741A). For the LM741C/LM741E, these specifications are limited to 0°C ≤ TA ≤ +70°C.
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